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November 25, 2007

Life god fate and me

Filed under: India, my views — Tags: — nitin @ 7:02 pm

Sometimes i really try to brainstorm about who we are,why are we living on this planet about re-incarnation,about soul and heaven-hell and all such stupid things.Trying to find answers of such complex questions is really the mission of life for some researchers..But trying to question everything is not the perorgative of only reasearchers.. 🙂 

coming back..I really wonder about the word called “naseeb”(fate).
What is Fate?Fate of a person means that every period of life of a person is pre-decided or is going to happen in future at any cost.Fate is the order of the supreme power “god” written or decided for every human.
which means if everything is predecided then why should we worry about our future?Finally no matter wat we do..Everything is going to happen as per the plan chalk out by the supreme power.Is there a chance of any modification to one’s fate?If every actions performed by us are actually been predefined by god..it means god is running our life like a puppet.

So any action performed by us is by the will of the god like murdering,rape,bank loot,massacre…because it was bound to happen.Any murderer can claim that he is innocent ,as its not his fault or his will..it was the will of the god.But someone can argue that if god is there then devil should also be there.But if we punish a human for his deed are we punishing the devil inside him?Because then we make third assumption about human soul as a separate entity which can  be controlled by both God or Devil.
So finally its our soul which bears the brunt of acts done by god/devil.

People say god is omnipresent..then why cant it stop child abuses,bombblast in its own place of worship like temples or mosques?

If we die wat happens to us?our life? our so called soul?
When some one dies ..how we the living ones can presume about where the deadmans soul is heading for?bcos we can never have a clue about wat happens after death.But then why do we try to do things which will land us somewhere about which we dont know if anyone’s been there.Even if we assume that life exists even after death..then too how can we be sure to look back at our life after our death?

Either god has ownership of everything we see around us living or non living or it’s playing a partial role.

Assumption 1:God has ownership of everything we see around us living or non living.

why did god created 1000 of species from small micro-organisms to the Blue Whale. wat’s his purpose in providing oxygen on earth atmosphere or are we customized to breath oxygen ?
Why only earth has life …If god wants he cud have created life on more than one planet..and if we be lucky..why not our neighbouring ones..how can he control the life of all living creature on planet earth?

Assumption 2:God has a partial role to play.
If such were the case then we have darwin’s and many other theories about evolution, inception of universe which can be considered credible enough to an extent.But wat if someone argues like god just created initially and then left all otherthings on themselves.Means partial support to ones life.Partial role in the universe.He doesn’t cares about the no of trees,grass ..flowers,insects,animals..but only about humans.

I have talked a lot..i knw too much of stress can result in such kind of thinking..I need a break!!!

16 Comments »

  1. Read this book called “God’s Debris”. It would help in your introspection. You can download this book free from my esnips folder:
    http://www.esnips.com/doc/1ce48339-5ca1-4145-8d36-91ec1ec95307/Gods-Debris

    Comment by Poonam Sharma — November 29, 2007 @ 5:14 am

  2. Thanks poonam for link..downloaded..will read at my leisure..
    but if you have read this..can u pls brief in short the essence of the book.

    Comment by nitin — November 29, 2007 @ 6:56 am

  3. This topic confuses me a lot Nitin.Nobody could ever answer these questions.The best answer so far has been ‘Logic and faith don’t go together’.I could never find out why would God let small kids die of sickness, natural calamities or human atrocities. Unlike adults they are not capapble of commiting any sins.Why should they be punished? If you ever find an answer please post it on your blog.

    Comment by pr3rna — November 29, 2007 @ 8:05 pm

  4. @prerna..I dont know answer’s thats why am posting..see how screwed up i was that i posted
    assumptions and tried real hard..Poonam has suggested some book..need to read to find
    something which quenches my thirst for answers ..

    Comment by nitin — November 30, 2007 @ 12:38 pm

  5. Hi Nitin

    I believe it would add depth to your questions if you read the Gospel books in the New Testament. And pray over your questions. If God is all powerful and all loving, which he is, then he will answer you when you seek him. I’ve been changed radically since I first read the Bible. If you don’t have access to a printed Bible you can find it free online at http://www.biblegateway. com (search for Matthew, Mark, Luke or John to start with) or you can download the entire bible from http://www.e-sword .net

    Your questions are logical but the answers can be very complex. Only God has the wisdom to explain and clear all doubts I guess 🙂 Life hurts sometimes, but that is a part of the wonderful plan.

    Comment by xperi — November 30, 2007 @ 7:23 pm

  6. KISS-keep it(life) simple,savant
    Don’t contaminate life with heady philosophies.Looking for meaning of life in thousand odd pages of scriptures?

    Three passions have governed my life:
    The longings for love, the search for knowledge,
    And unbearable pity for the suffering of [humankind].

    Love brings ecstasy and relieves loneliness.
    In the union of love I have seen
    In a mystic miniature the prefiguring vision
    Of the heavens that saints and poets have imagined.

    With equal passion I have sought knowledge.
    I have wished to understand the hearts of [people].
    I have wished to know why the stars shine.

    Love and knowledge led upwards to the heavens,
    But always pity brought me back to earth;
    Cries of pain reverberated in my heart
    Of children in famine, of victims tortured
    And of old people left helpless.
    I long to alleviate the evil, but I cannot,
    And I too suffer.

    This has been my life; I found it worth living.
    ———–Betrand Russel

    @pr3rna-Betrand Russel in his book “Why I’m not A christian” discusses the very points you mentioned.Must read for (theists and atheists).

    xp aka kiran(on jab we met)

    Comment by xntricpundits — December 1, 2007 @ 3:29 pm

  7. I believe in God and I believe in ‘Theory of Evolution’ too. My best guess is that Book of Genesis is a layman’s way of explaning the theory of evolution.
    I dont know who will agree with me.

    Comment by xylene — December 6, 2007 @ 7:58 am

  8. @Xylene
    boss..i didn’t get you.sorry. What is this “Book of genesis”?

    Comment by nitin — December 6, 2007 @ 10:47 am

  9. Its the first Book in the Bible 🙂

    Comment by xylene — December 6, 2007 @ 11:20 am

  10. Dimaak chakkar khagaya.

    Comment by Srini — December 11, 2007 @ 9:41 pm

  11. @srini

    🙂

    Comment by nitin — December 12, 2007 @ 6:51 pm

  12. “What is Fate?Fate of a person means that every period of life of a person is pre-decided or is going to happen in future at any cost.Fate is the order of the supreme power “god” written or decided for every human”.

    hi, i am sure these questions bother everybody at one stage of life or the other.

    I have tried to provide an answer that was given by a pontiff of sringeri,in my blog post “Fate vs Free will” at http://empoweringall.wordpress.com. you may go through it and tell me if it in anyway answered your doubt.

    Comment by latha vidyaranya — December 18, 2007 @ 3:38 pm

  13. Hi Latha..

    You mean to say that if our will is applied we can mould our future/fate..right?
    What if the process of applying your “will” itself is pre-written..Means..it was the fate that e.g “you wont try for the third time” .One cannot distinguish betwn wats in their hand and wats not ,if we believe in fate.There should be either black or white.

    So your theory is not quite convincing for me.still a good post.

    Comment by nitin — December 22, 2007 @ 6:41 am

  14. yes, very difficult to decide where to draw the line and let go. but nitin, most of the people mention fate as an excuse for their inaction and hence the post. god has gifted us with all mental and physical faculties and hence there should be no laxity on our part in applying our best and honest attempts. inspite of it, (if we introspect we would know how sincere or insincere my attempts were)if the outcome is against our expectations, then we can just accept the result without blaming the fate. may be on a future day, i would be once again motivated to take up where i had left it and see to its successful completion!

    Comment by latha vidyaranya — December 27, 2007 @ 4:23 am

  15. What if the very act of introspection is pre decided..???Latha,in a nutshell.. My argument are for those who are firm believers of fate..I just wanna tell them..its either black or white..
    or its non existent..
    The other part which you say is totally for a true human spirit..I like it!!!
    🙂

    Comment by nitin — December 27, 2007 @ 5:29 am


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